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Samantha Harvey Samantha Harvey (pictured) wins the Booker Prize for her novel Orbital. Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby announces his resignation as a result of the John Smyth abuse scandal in the Church of England. In Zhuhai, China, 35 people are killed in a vehicle-ramming attack. Alliance for Change, led by Navin Ramgoolam, wins the Mauritian general election. Ongoing: Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of Lebanon Russian invasion of Ukraine timeline Sudanese civil war timeline Recent deaths: Bob Love Celeste Caeiro György Pauk Elizabeth Nunez Eileen Kramer Vardis Vardinogiannis view — page history — related changes — edit

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November 20

Portal:Current events/2024 November 20
November 20, 2024 (2024-11-20) (Wednesday)

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November 19

Portal:Current events/2024 November 19

November 19, 2024 (2024-11-19) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine Ukraine launches ATACMS ballistic missiles at targets in Bryansk Oblast, Russia, according to the Russian Defence Ministry. It is the first time that Ukraine has used the American-supplied missiles to strike targets inside Russia. (BBC News) Nuclear risk during the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Russia and weapons of mass destruction Russian President Vladimir Putin signs a decree that allows his country to use nuclear weapons in response to conventional attacks by a non-nuclear state supported by a nuclear power. (Reuters) Israel–Hezbollah conflict 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon Three Lebanese soldiers are killed and eight other people are injured by an Israeli airstrike in Sarafand, Lebanon. (Al Jazeera), (Times of Israel) Haitian crisis Twenty-eight suspected gang members are killed by police and residents in Pétion-Ville, Port-au-Prince, Haiti. (Al Jazeera) Law and crime Hong Kong 47 Forty-five pro-democracy activists in Hong Kong are sentenced to prison terms between four and 10 years over an unofficial primary held in 2020. (Reuters) School attacks in China Several people are injured in a vehicle-ramming attack outside a primary school in Changde, Dingcheng District, China. (ABC News) Politics and elections 2024 Abkhazian protests Abkhazia President Aslan Bzhania resigns following negotiations with the opposition. Vice President Badra Gunba takes over as acting president. (Abkhaz World) (Reuters) 2024 Jubaland presidential election The Supreme Court of Jubaland takes an oath in 75 newly Representatives MP's approved by the Traditional Leaders, the regional's election committee timetabled the election and 22 November is set to be elected Speaker of Parliament and 25 November set to be elected president and vice president. (Horseed Media) (Garowe Online)

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Hīkoi mō te Tiriti

Article: Hīkoi mō te Tiriti (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In a Hīkoi mō te Tiriti action across New Zealand, over 60,000 march against a bill that would reform the Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi amid fears it would reduce Maori rights. (Post)
News source(s): 1news.co.nz
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Serial Number 54129 (talk · give credit)
• Created by TheLoyalOrder (talk · give credit)

• Small country not used to seeing large marches, first nation issues, covered internationally and with long term effects. SerialNumber54129 16:40, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
• Comment The protest has broad support by Pākehā (non-Māori), hence the blurb isn't quite right. Schwede66 18:18, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Schwede66, blurb now tweaked. SerialNumber54129 18:59, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Support - Massive international coverage, largest protests in New Zealand for a long time. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 19:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Suppport, though the blurb is inaccurate, proponents of the bill also argue it will redefine the principles, that's the point of the legislation. TheLoyalOrder (talk) 19:46, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

@TheLoyalOrder: Tweaked. Note it was taken directly from your original lead ;) SerialNumber54129 20:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Support Per above Rynoip (talk) 19:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Weak support Plenty of coverage and it's a nationwide protest with over 30,000 in attendance in Wellington alone after all. The lede could be expanded, though. Departure– (talk) 20:19, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Lead expanded. SerialNumber54129 20:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose as stale. These protests began on 10 November, and it has been 9 days since then. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 21:22, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

  The protests are in their final day as they reach Wellington and Parliament today. Departure– (talk) 21:50, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

@Red-tailed hawk: Hello. The marches stated nine days ago relatively small. They garnered very little attention then, naturally, because of their size. This is the climax. ITN shows the Oscars, not the date the invites go out. SerialNumber54129 22:30, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

• Comment Maybe put occurs across New Zealand earlier, followed by against .... Kowal2701 (talk) 21:57, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

  occurs across New Zealand is a bit too broad, the hikoi started in Auckland and made its way down to Wellington. This all happened in the North Island, maybe occurs in major cities in the North Island of New Zealand Rynoip (talk) 23:42, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Hong Kong 47

Article: Hong Kong 47 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ 45 pro-democracy activists and politicians are sentenced under the Chinese law on Hong Kong national security as a results of participation in the 2020 Hong Kong pro-democracy primaries. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Manchiu (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Natg 19 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: lagrest trial under the HK national security law.-Manchiu (talk) 13:41, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

• Wait Tables are not fully filled. Aftermath section is not added yet. Besides, many activists are jailed every year, although this is significant in terms of the number of activists jailed, I don't think we should be giving special consideration to this incident. TNM101 (chat) 14:52, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

This more than "activists getting jailed", but is a greater geo-political issue of the erosion of democratic norms in Hong Kong. Natg 19 (talk) 19:27, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose though this court case is notable, we are now in the sentencing phase, which is not as notable. The time to post this would have been in 2021 when the activists were arrested and charged. Natg 19 (talk) 16:56, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

On second thought, if we did not post this before, it would be fine to post this now. However, the article still needs improvement. Natg 19 (talk) 19:27, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Support Article quality is now good, although the aftermath section could use some expansion. Rynoip (talk) 19:52, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Strong oppose on quality - The article hardly seems updated following sentencing. While it is in the article, it's not nearly enough prose to (in my eyes) justify an ITN blurb. Support on notability. Departure– (talk) 20:28, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

• Support: The article is notable and looks good. Till somebody opposing on quality doesn't put forth on what point is the quality going wrong, I don't see anything wrong. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 20:33, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

RD: Shuntarō Tanikawa

Article: Shuntarō Tanikawa (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Japan Times
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Japanese poet. His death announced on this day. 240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288 (talk) 05:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Weak oppose on article quality, i'd say add detail on what's listed on bro's greatest work, "Two Billion Light Years of Solitude (1952)". Also, if this article doesn't get approved soon, it may risk becoming stale as bro passed on november 13. BlondArkhangel (talk) 13:14, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Two citation needed tags. Awards section has no sources. Secretlondon (talk) 23:09, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

November 18

Portal:Current events/2024 November 18

November 18, 2024 (2024-11-18) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure Odesa strikes Russian forces launch a missile attack on the city of Odesa, Ukraine, for the second consecutive day, killing at least ten civilians, injuring dozens of others and damaging civilian infrastructure, including residential buildings. (Ukrainska Pravda) Ukrainian energy crisis, 17 November 2024 Russian strikes on Ukraine Ukraine re-implements nationwide rolling blackouts primarily due to yesterday's destruction of energy infrastructure by Russian airstrikes. (Reuters) A submarine data communications cable across the Baltic Sea between Finland and Germany has been damaged in what German officials suspect is sabotage. (The Guardian) Israel–Hezbollah conflict 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon Hezbollah launches more than 100 missiles at Israel, including Tel Aviv, killing one person and injuring dozens of others. (The Times of Israel) Five people are killed and 24 others are injured in an Israeli airstrike on Zuqaq al-Blat, Beirut, Lebanon. (Al Jazeera) Hezbollah and Lebanon both agree to a United States proposal for a ceasefire. However, Israel has refused to comment. (Reuters) Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Security forces raid a Lashkar-e-Islam hideout in the Tirah Valley of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan, killing ten militants and injuring several others. (ABC News) A Pakistani Taliban ambush on a military convoy in Khyber district, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, kills eight soldiers and wounds three others. Several gunmen are also killed. Separately, seven police officers are kidnapped in Bannu. (Voice of America) Somali Civil War Three people are killed and another is injured when a land mine, believed to have been planted by Al-Shabaab, explodes on a highway between Afgooye and Wanlaweyn in Lower Shabele, Somalia. (Garowe Online) Business and economy American airline Spirit Airlines files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy after years of financial losses and a failed merger attempt with JetBlue. (NPR) Disasters and accidents Three people are killed in an explosion at a fireworks factory in Ercolano, Italy. (Rai News) International relations Denmark–Somalia relations Denmark and Somalia reach an agreement to relieve more than $8.5 million of Somali debt. (Horseed Media) Law and crime Three people are killed in a stabbing spree in Manhattan, New York, United States. The perpetrator is arrested. (CNN)

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RD: Colin Petersen

Article: Colin Petersen (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deccan Herald
Credits:

• Nominated by Ollieisanerd (talk · give credit)
• Created by Bostart (talk · give credit)
• Updated by TheCorriynial (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Australian drummer for the Bee Gees. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 17:56, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Some citations needed, and uncited paragraphs. Secretlondon (talk) 23:11, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Bob Love

Article: Bob Love (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

• Nominated by Staraction (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Leeapp (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American basketball player. Needs additional work (orange-tagged). Staraction (talk | contribs) 05:19, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

• Support: Seems notable. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 05:25, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
  • @Stephen: this is why I wanted it included in the header. Might be in the template, but it's not visible enough. Abcmaxx (talk) 06:57, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

    You think people read the instructions at the top? Especially what would be points 7) and 8). It's a perennial problem. Stephen 07:21, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

• They're more likely to read the top of the page than somewhere in the depth of the many policies. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:00, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

• Failing to read detailed instructions is normal behaviour – see banner blindness and WP:CREEP. If you don't want people casting such !votes then the format of the process should be changed so that it's a checklist rather than a call for !votes. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

  It's not WP:CREEP if it's already a rule. Abcmaxx (talk) 11:59, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

• Support The orange banner tag was placed in 2010 which is 14 years ago! Since that time, the article has been expanded greatly and the number of citations increased from 2 to 27. As there's no current indication or discussion of specific problems with the article and the article seems quite adequate, I just removed the obsolete tag. If people think there's a problem, they need to be specific. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:16, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
• Support. Citations have been completed. Marked as ready. Flibirigit (talk) 13:16, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 20:04, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

RD: Arthur Frommer

Article: Arthur Frommer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Travel Weekly
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Founder of Frommer's travel guide book series. Thriley (talk) 01:31, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Soft oppose: Chunks of the article aren't cited, there are also no sections and it's lacking in prose. Scuba 02:06, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: György Pauk

Article: György Pauk (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Strad
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Grimes2 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by CurryTime7-24 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Hungarian violinist, Bartók expert. Grimes2 (talk) 23:09, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Support article is properly cited. Scuba 02:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 03:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

2024 Senegalese parliamentary election

Article: 2024 Senegalese parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The PASTEF party, led by Ousmane Sonko (pictured), claims victory in the 2024 Senegalese parliamentary election (Post)
News source(s): France 24 Deutsch Welle
Credits:

• Nominated by Scu ba (talk · give credit)
• Created by Number 57 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Borgenland (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Article needs serious work, and needs to be updated, but when that is done this is ITN/R. More of a call to action for people to edit the article at the moment rather than a true submission to the board. Scuba 04:21, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

These sources are all dated from 18 November so this submission should be moved to tomorrow. Senegal uses UTC. Departure– (talk) 04:27, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Moved. Scuba 04:30, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

• Wait until an official winner is announced. I will say I don't know much about how election works in Senegal. INeedSupport ^:3 15:29, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Weak oppose on quality as the article is very short, although it seems well sourced. Per AP, other major parties have conceded defeat to PASTEF and their victory seems all but guaranteed. I'd just like to confirm however, Sonko is the leader of PASTEF but he isn't mentioned in the AP article - I don't know enough about Senegalese politics to draw a major conclusion on this though. Departure– (talk) 17:17, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

November 17

Portal:Current events/2024 November 17

November 17, 2024 (2024-11-17) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure, Ukrainian energy crisis 17 November 2024 Russian strikes on Ukraine Russia launches its largest aerial attack on Ukraine in months. According to President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy, around 120 missiles and 90 drones were launched, damaging energy infrastructure across the country, killing at least seven people, and causing widespread damage. (CNN) (BBC News) Ten people are killed and 52 others are injured in a Russian missile strike on an apartment building in Sumy, Ukraine. (Reuters) United States President Joe Biden lifts restrictions on the Ukrainian use of U.S. weapons for deep attacks inside Russia, with Ukrainian forces planning to use the weapons in long-distance attacks in the coming days. (Reuters) Israel–Hamas war Palestinian genocide accusation Pope Francis calls for the global community to investigate whether Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. (CNN) Siege of North Gaza At least 72 people are killed, a third of whom are children, in an Israeli strike against a residential building in Beit Lahia, in northern Gaza. (Al Jazeera) (AsiaOne) Israel–Hezbollah conflict 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon An Israeli airstrike on the Lebanese Ba'ath Party headquarters in Ras el-Nabaa, Beirut, Lebanon, kills seven people, including Hezbollah spokesman Mohammed Afif. Sixteen others are wounded. Three people are also killed and 29 more injured in another airstrike in Mar Elias. (Barron's) (Al Jazeera) Disasters and accidents 2024 Atlantic hurricane season Tropical Storm Sara makes landfall in Belize after causing flooding in Honduras. (AP) 2024 Pacific typhoon season Typhoon Man-yi makes landfall in the Philippines as a Category 4 super typhoon, three days after Typhoon Usagi struck the country and becoming the sixth consecutive storm to affect Luzon in the past month. At least eight people are killed. (Al Jazeera) (BBC News) Health and environment One fatality and dozens of illnesses are linked to an E. coli outbreak of U.S.-grown organic carrots. (CTV News) Law and crime Two people are killed and nine others are injured in two shooting incidents near a parade route in New Orleans, Louisiana, United States. (AP) Politics and elections 2024 Senegalese parliamentary election Citizens of Senegal vote for the 165 seats of the National Assembly after President Bassirou Diomaye Faye dissolved the parliament in September. (DW) Hundreds of people march in a protest against Russian President Vladimir Putin in Berlin, Germany, which was called by opposition leaders-in-exile Yulia Navalnaya, Vladimir Kara-Murza, and Ilya Yashin. (DW) Sports 111th Grey Cup In Canadian football, the Toronto Argonauts defeat the Winnipeg Blue Bombers 41–24 to claim their 19th Canadian Football League title. (TSN) Toronto Argonauts quarterback Nick Arbuckle is named the most valuable player and wide receiver Dejon Brissett is named the most valuable Canadian. (TSN) 2024 ATP Finals In tennis, Jannik Sinner defeats Taylor Fritz, 6–4, 6–4 to win his first ATP Finals singles title. (CNN) 2024 MotoGP World Championship In motorcycle racing, Prima Pramac Racing driver Jorge Martín wins the 2024 MotoGP World Championship, becoming the first independent driver to win the title in the MotoGP era. (Al Jazeera)

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RD: Artur Sarnat

Article: Artur Sarnat (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Wisła Kraków
Credits:

• Nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article needs expansion, but given the available sources should be easy to do. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:36, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Soft support article looks decent, albeit very short. Scuba 02:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

2024 MotoGP World Championship

Article: 2024 MotoGP World Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In motorcycle racing, Jorge Martín (pictured) wins the MotoGP World Championship. (Post)
News source(s): Eurosport
Credits:

• Nominated by Unnamelessness (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 Unnamelessness (talk) 14:01, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

• Comment is there a reason there are no infoboxes like in other sports season articles? Abcmaxx (talk) 14:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Soft oppose needs an infobox. Scuba 21:15, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

There is no such rule. HiLo48 (talk) 01:27, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, none of the MotoGP championship articles have an infobox. The 🏎 Corvette 🏍 ZR1^{(The Garage)} 00:33, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Yes but my question is why? Abcmaxx (talk) 01:32, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Okay, well, that's a problem. Scuba 02:40, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

The use of infoboxes is neither required nor prohibited for any article per MOS:INFOBOXUSE... there doesn't need to be one on any article, so its not a problem. Happily888 (talk) 03:33, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

I'm not saying it's a requirement, I'm just wondering why aren't there any, especially given they’re very useful on sports season articles. Abcmaxx (talk) 08:55, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

It's not a requirement, but it would be nice to have, and there isn't really a reason to not have one. Scuba 02:08, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

• Weak support the season summary could be expanded, but is just about good enough for the article to pass WP:ITNQUALITY. The existence of an infobox is not a requirement for ITN, and so any votes based on that should be disregarded. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:30, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

• Support ITNR, well cited, infobox is not necessary. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 09:35, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

111th Grey Cup

Article: 111th Grey Cup (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Canadian football, the Toronto Argonauts (MVP Nick Arbuckle pictured) defeats the Winnipeg Blue Bombers to win the Grey Cup. (Post)
News source(s): TSN
Credits:

• Nominated by Moraljaya67 (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: I know that this article needs a game summary for this like in other sports (i.e. NFL, NBA, AFL, etc.) Moraljaya67 (talk) 04:10, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

I should note that the Grey Cup is ITNR so discussion should focus on quality instead of notability. Strong oppose on quality, much of the article is written in future tense and no details about the game itself are present. Departure– (talk) 04:14, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: Changed to ITNR since the Grey Cup is in recurring item. Moraljaya67 (talk) 04:17, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose there's absolutely no description or indeed any information at all on the game. It's all background trivia at the moment. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:25, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose needs proper match summary. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:31, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Oppose summary that was added is all original research and has no citations. Scuba 02:04, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

November 16

Portal:Current events/2024 November 16

November 16, 2024 (2024-11-16) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Insurgency in Balochistan Seven paramilitary soldiers are killed and 18 are wounded by a Balochistan Liberation Army attack on a checkpoint in Kalat District, Balochistan, Pakistan. (Reuters) Arts and culture Miss Universe 2024 Danish model Victoria Kjær Theilvig is crowned Miss Universe, becoming the first Dane to win the competition. (CNN) (AP) Health and environment 2023–2024 mpox epidemic California confirms its first case of Clade I mpox in a person who travelled to East Africa, becoming the first confirmed case of Clade I mpox in the United States. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents At least 13 people are killed and 80 rescued after a building collapses in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. (Reuters) International relations APEC Peru 2024 At the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Peru, outgoing U.S. President Joe Biden meets with Chinese President Xi Jinping for their final meeting before Biden leaves office on January 20th. During the meeting, Biden and Xi talk about topics like cyber crime, trade, Taiwan, and Russia. Xi also said that his team will work with the incoming Trump administration. (Reuters) Law and crime 2024 Wuxi stabbing attack Eight people are killed and 17 others are injured in a stabbing spree at the Wuxi Institute of Technology in Yixing, Jiangsu, China. The suspect, a 21-year-old student, is arrested. (CNN) (Reuters) A man barricades himself inside his father's restaurant in Issy-les-Moulineaux, France, taking restaurant employees as hostages. The hostages are later rescued and the man is arrested. (BFM TV) (The Jerusalem Post) Argentina orders the arrest of 61 Brazilian citizens currently living in Argentina who are accused of participating in the 2023 Brazilian Congress attack. (Reuters) Politics and elections 2024 Gabonese constitutional referendum Citizens of Gabon vote on a proposed new constitution, including replacing the current semi-presidential system with a presidential system following the 2023 coup. (DW)

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2024 Wuxi stabbing attack

Article: 2024 Wuxi stabbing attack (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A stabbing attack in Wuxi, China kills 8 and injures 17. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In a school in Wuxi, China, a graduate student stabs 25.
News source(s): AP
Credits:

• Nominated by CanonNi (talk · give credit)
• Created by Swinub (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Bloxzge 025 (talk · give credit) and Tokisaki Kurumi (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Second mass attack in a week. (the first being the ramming) '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 05:53, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

I've moved this here. (previously under November 19)  Self-trout '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 07:40, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

• Weak Support Article quality is fine but could use some work. The stabbing is very notable. INeedSupport ^:3 17:38, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Support on notability, quality could use some work though. Rynoip (talk) 19:43, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

RD: Vladimir Shklyarov

Article: Vladimir Shklyarov (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article not too bad, needs a few more citations in places though. Needs a section on their death given that he was taking painkillers for an injury and fell from fifth floor of a building in St. Petersburg. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:09, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

RD: Gerry Weil

Article: Gerry Weil (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): El Nacional
Credits:

• Nominated by NoonIcarus (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Austrian-born Venezuelan jazz musician. NoonIcarus (talk) 20:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Article is a stub, nothing about his personal life. Rynoip (talk) 22:03, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

RD: Pat Koch Thaler

Article: Pat Koch Thaler (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by TJMSmith (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American educator, author, and activist. TJMSmith (talk) 19:32, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Support Article is sufficiently cited and in good quality. Rynoip (talk) 22:04, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

RD: Béla Károlyi

Article: Béla Károlyi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Estreyeria (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Romanian-American gymnastics coach of nine Olympic champions. Seems to be missing some citations. Estreyeria (talk) 02:28, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Soft oppose article was looking good, until the 1999–2000 section, which is practically uncited. Scuba 03:57, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

(Ready) RD: Olav Thon

Article: Olav Thon (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NTB
Credits:

• Nominated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit) and Marius1603 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article updated and well sourced --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 13:35, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

• Weak Oppose: Short, could be lengthened by translating sourced material from the corresponding Norwegian article first, it has additional 14 citations at least. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 15:03, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

  @ExclusiveEditor: How about now? Added an early life section. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 15:34, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

• Support Looks well sourced. For a 101 year old his bio could be longer, but this will suffice. Shanes (talk) 17:37, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Support Looks like a long enough article and well sourced. - Sebbog13 (talk) 03:08, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Support Article looks good. Scuba 03:58, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

RD: Ahmed Mohamed Mohamoud

Article: Ahmed Mohamed Mohamoud (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): (BBC Somali) (VOA Somali) (The Eastleigh Voice)
Credits:

• Nominated by QalasQalas (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Mohamad Darilin (talk · give credit) and TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: The former Somaliland president died on November 15, coverage of his death started on November 16. The overall article seems well-cited with reliable and primary citations needed for some awards. QalasQalas (talk) 11:06, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Oppose overall article looks good at a glance, until you notice a bunch of paragraphs with no citation. Scuba 03:07, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

November 15

Portal:Current events/2024 November 15

November 15, 2024 (2024-11-15) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Colombian conflict Thirteen National Liberation Army militants and a police lieutenant were killed during a serie of shootouts with soldiers and police officers in Bolívar and Arauca, Colombia. Other twelve militants were arrested during the operations.(El Publico Tv) Allied Democratic Forces insurgency, Kivu conflict Thirteen people are killed, others are kidnapped and houses are burned by Allied Democratic Forces gunmen in Mabisu, North Kivu, Democratic Republic of the Congo. (AP) Business and economy The Canadian Union of Postal Workers go on strike after failing to renegotiate their contract with Canada Post. (AP) The purchase of conspiracy theory website InfoWars to the satirical news content maker The Onion is put on hold by a Texas judge after lawyers representing InfoWars founder Alex Jones claimed to find irregularities in the auctioning process. The Onion say they plan to complete their purchase. (The Guardian) Disasters and accidents At least ten people are killed in a fire at a retirement residence in Villafranca de Ebro, Zaragoza, Spain. (The Washington Post) Ten infants are killed and 16 others are injured in a fire inside a neonatal intensive care unit at the Jhansi Medical College hospital in Jhansi, Uttar Pradesh, North India. (AP) International relations Austria–Russia relations Austrian energy company OMV announces, that Russian state-owned energy company Gazprom will stop supplying natural gas to Austria, who receives their natural gas primarily from Russia, starting this weekend. (DW) Russian invasion of Ukraine, Germany–Russia relations German Chancellor Olaf Scholz holds a telephone call with Russian President Vladimir Putin about the war in Ukraine, their first contact since 2022. Putin tells Scholz that any negotiated settlement to end the war must recognize the territories that Russia has occupied as part of Russia and that Ukraine must abandon its aspiration to join NATO. (AP) (The New York Times) Law and crime 2024 Abkhazian protests Protestors storm the Parliament of Abkhazia in the capital Sukhumi in opposition to a proposed measure that would allow Russians to buy property in Abkhazia. Opposition leader Eshsou Kakalia claims that protestors now control the building. (Al Jazeera) Assassination of Malcolm X Three daughters of civil rights activist Malcolm X file a $100 million wrongful death lawsuit against the CIA, the FBI, and the New York Police Department for their alleged roles in the assassination of Malcolm X. (AP) Israel–Hamas war protests American ice cream company Ben & Jerry's sues their parent company Unilever in a federal court for allegedly censoring their statements supporting Gaza. (AP) (Business Insider) Politics and elections 2024 Sri Lankan parliamentary election Sri Lankan President Anura Kumara Dissanayake's National People's Power coalition wins a supermajority in the snap election for the 17th Parliament of Sri Lanka. (Reuters) Second presidential transition of Donald Trump President-elect of the United States Donald Trump names Karoline Leavitt as the White House Press Secretary for his second term in office, which will make her the youngest ever person to serve in the role at 27 years old. (AP) Kyrgyzstan President Sadyr Japarov opens the Zhany-Barak village in the Osh Region of Kyrgyzstan for resettled residents of the Barak exclave in Uzbekistan. (24.kg) Croatian Prime Minister Andrej Plenković dismisses health minister Vili Beroš on suspicions of corruption. (DW)

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RD: Jon Kenny

Article: Jon Kenny (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1],[2],[3]
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Serial Number 54129 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Erksahin (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Irish actor and comedian. Known for The Banshees of Inisherin among other things. Filmography (as usual) needs sourcing—being worked on now now sourced. SerialNumber54129 20:50, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Support looks good, refreshing to see a fully cited filmography. Scuba 03:59, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Celeste Caeiro

Article: Celeste Caeiro (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Alsoriano97 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Normantas Bataitis (talk · give credit) and Jkaharper (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Celeste dos Cravos, the woman who, giving her carnations to the soldiers, gave the name to the 1974 Carnation Revolution in Portugal. Been working on the article and I think it is already in a good state to be posted. _-_Alsor (talk) 11:16, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

• Support, the article is ready to be posted. Alexcalamaro (talk) 18:10, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Support article looks good. Scuba 04:00, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 20:00, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In boxing, influencer Jake Paul defeats 58 year old former heavyweight champion Mike Tyson. On the same card, Katie Taylor wins her second fight against Amanda Serrano. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In boxing, influencer Jake Paul defeats 58 year old former heavyweight champion Mike Tyson.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In boxing, influencer Jake Paul defeats former heavyweight champion Mike Tyson and Katie Taylor defeats Amanda Serrano.
News source(s): [[4]]
Credits:

• Nominated by BlondArkhangel (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Significant in not only boxing, but sports in general. Appealed to a diverse audience of traditional boxing icons and celebrity-driven boxing with over 100 million people tuned in to watch the event. Also the first Netflix live sports stream, which was met with widespread criticism. Additionally, significant in women's boxing was the undercard of this event which was Taylor vs. Serrano. BlondArkhangel (talk) 06:10, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

• Comment. Firstly, thanks for this contribution BlondArkhangel. We continue to look for newer contributors such as yourself. Regarding this nomination, I was thinking that it would have been a WP:SNOW close given the reasonably high bar on posting that this project has. However, I saw that we had posted Floyd Mayweather vs. Conor McGregor in 2017. So, I am not sure how this will go. Btw, I, a novice to this sport, saw the women's fight and it was quite something. Congrats to the winners irrespective of the posting decision. Ktin (talk) 06:38, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

  Thank you. I also am not really into boxing but found this event to be extremely exciting. As far as I can tell, this event had two important fights in the world of boxing, and I actually think the Taylor-Serrano fight was actually a more anticipated fight for the boxing community, whereas the main event fight was more of a meh but still fun idea that gained lots of popularity. The fight itself was so huge that Netflix crashed and buffered multiple times, likely from the millions of people trying to watch it at the same time. Did you experience buffering while you were watching it? BlondArkhangel (talk) 06:55, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose don't think we have posted any recent boxing results. And this one (Paul vs Tyson) is not significant enough, as it was not even a title bout, but just a publicity stunt. Natg 19 (talk) 06:39, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

  I don't see how the frequency of posting boxing results should be a criteria for ITN. Mike Tyson, is a pop culture figure and among one of the most dominant and famous boxers in his era. This event was talked about by many in and outside of the sports world and narrated as a 58 year old man is coming out of retirement to beat an influencer in Jake Paul. In the sports world this event, even if it was a publicity stunt, has a lot of significant aspects to it that have attracted the likes of people who don't even box. However, I would argue it wasn't just a publicity stunt, Taylor and Serrano's rematch was extremely hyped in the boxing community and a well fought one at that. BlondArkhangel (talk) 07:07, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

  Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk was posted earlier this year, but that was a fight for the undisputed heavyweight title. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 10:27, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Weak oppose, I'm more inclined to see this as entertainment news(which we try to avoid), rather than sport news. WP:ITNSPORTS doesn't say anything about boxing, but my understanding is that his was a relatively routine fight that is not worthy of ITN. –DMartin 07:03, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

• Support I think this is notable, but not for the same reasons the blurb currently implies - hear me out. Never before has a fight been live-streamed simultaneously to so many: according to Rolling Stone, 120 million households tuned in. To put that in context, when we posted Floyd-Mayweather back in 2017, that was called "record-breaking" because it simulcasted to 50 million (source).The fact that Netflix streamed this, as opposed to PPV or a cable provider, is a huge story for the future of sport and television. Soon, the NFL and NHL will begin transitioning to broadcasting sports via streaming providers. This (and the major tech issues which surrounded such a large simulcast) will be looked back upon as a major transitional moment. Merits ITN, as the wider notability extends beyond the "publicity stunt" nature of the feature fight itself. Flip^andFlopped ツ 07:14, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks for the support. Do you have any propositions on what the blurb could be altered to without being excessive? A lot of events happened in this singular event (Paul v. Tyson, Netflix crashing, Netflix streaming live sports, Taylor v. Serrano) BlondArkhangel (talk) 07:20, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

  My netflix crashed 6 times lol Bloxzge 025 (talk) 13:17, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

  Also, the Rolling Stone article has a paywall, is there any other source or way to access the article besides paying? BlondArkhangel (talk) 07:22, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

  Way too much WP:NOT#CRYSTAL here in trying to justify this as a major event. — Masem (t) 13:20, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

  According to Netflix, 60 million households throughout the world watched the Tyson-Paul fight & 50 million households throughout the world watched the Taylor-Serrano fight Blaylockjam10 (talk) 09:50, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose. Joke fight, joke outcome. Nothing of significance to the sport decided here. Hyperbolick (talk) 07:20, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

  120 million people tuned in to this boxing match, how is that not significant? The Taylor-Serrano fight also took place under this fight, I wouldn't say that was a "joke" fight or outcome and it was probably the most entertaining of the matches. BlondArkhangel (talk) 07:31, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

  Why then does the page so woefully lack fight details? Hyperbolick (talk) 08:44, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

  Just as if you do a car race at Taylor Swifts huge concert, it doesn't become official. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 15:00, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

• Support altblurb2 Significant event. The 31-year gap makes this even more interesting. Even if it was a publicity stunt, it did its job, that is getting publicity in the form of the 120 million people who watched it live. This fight would be debated over for a long time to come. I also think that the blurb should cover the women's match too, as it was said to be a better fight than the Paul Tyson one. So I have added another altblurb TNM101 (chat) 08:10, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

If we do post this, I oppose blurbs which mention the women's fight. The significance of this event is the main fight which was Paul vs Tyson. There were 6 other fights on the fight card, so it is cherry picking to mention Serrano vs Taylor. Natg 19 (talk) 08:17, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Serrano vs. Taylor was the co-main event. That doesn’t seem like cherry picking to me. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 09:24, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose It is not significant, neither for sport nor for entertainment. Pure spectacle, nothing more. _-_Alsor (talk) 11:17, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Please elaborate on what exactly makes this match a "significant event in not only boxing, but sports in general", BlondArkhangel.

31.44.227.152 (talk) 12:18, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Done. BlondArkhangel (talk) 15:59, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose None of these were official title fights. --Masem (t) 13:18, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

  ITN is not limited to title fights if their media attention is exceptional. Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Conor McGregor was a boxing match that was featured in in the news and not a title fight, but had widespread publicity. Paul v. Tyson is statistically a more watched event than that and arguably just as popular. BlondArkhangel (talk) 16:18, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

  Comment' correct me if I’m wrong be abuse I’m not into boxing but McGregor v Mayweather was more significant because they are both significant fighters with many titles, not an influencer v an old man 27.96.223.193 (talk) 22:37, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

  Serrano vs. Taylor was a title fight. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 09:25, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose per Masem. This is a sideshow, not the top flight of the sport. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:46, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
• Weak Support the news isn't so much the fight, but the attention and spectacle surrounding it. It's very much ITN, but I'd oppose the current blurbs. I also don't have any suggestions on what it should be, hence weak support. Kcmastrpc (talk) 14:04, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose As said by other above, we don't put boxing results in general, but also this was more of an entertainment piece, also this was not official title match, so could be very well rigged for entertainment, it would just serve as unnecessary advertisement for Netflix. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 14:57, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

  The purpose of ITN is to reflect events that capture widespread public attention. This event has definitely garnered that title. If anything this would hurt Netflix, the amount of technical difficulties in the streaming of the event could show significance even beyond the fight and in other sports streamed by Netflix. BlondArkhangel (talk) 16:32, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

  The purpose of ITN is to show quality WP articles that happen to be in the news. It is NOT a news ticker. — Masem (t) 16:55, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on significance - not a world-changing sporting event, nor is it ITNR. Maybe if it wasn't the era of the internet, I'd consider supporting for that 100 million figure, but as far as I can tell that isn't much of a record. Strong oppose on quality as the article has next to no details about the fight itself. Departure– (talk) 16:53, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
• Strong Oppose we shouldn’t be giving the Paul brothers any more platforms than they’ve already bought. Also the article is in poor shape. Scuba 19:11, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

You are a hypocrite for injecting your own opinion about these figures while criticizing my recent oppose vote for another nomination. Focus on the article quality, like you told me. Dreameditsbrooklyn (talk) 02:06, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Taking a page out of your book, oppose votes don't have to be rational, you said so yourself. Scuba 03:47, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose It may have significant coverage worldwide, but it doesn't have any lasting impact. It is a publicity stunt for both Jake Paul and Mike Tyson, which isn't usually posted on ITN. INeedSupport ^:3 23:06, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
• Support While I think the event is a farce, in a sport" that shouldn't exist, there is absolutely no doubt that it's in the news. It's on the front page of Australia's ABC News. HiLo48 (talk) 23:24, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
• Support. Mike Tyson returns, after all! BilboBeggins (talk) 23:33, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
• Support In the news, getting lots of attention (much more than UFC 309) and the article seems serviceable. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:39, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
• I oppose blurbing Paul vs. Tyson since that fight doesn’t seem like a significant fight. I theoretically support blurbing Serrano vs. Taylor since that was a widely watched title fight, but I currently oppose such a blurb due to quality issues. At the moment, there isn’t an article that has sufficient details about that fight. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 09:42, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per above, as the main event was not a title bout. Much like Paul's previous matches, this just doesn't seem like it will be a significant, notable event in future years. Happily888 (talk) 10:43, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose as it was just a show fight with no competitive significance. It'd have been a different story had Paul become a world champion as a result of his victory.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 11:05, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Comment: For this type of conflict, it would seem that the death count is entirely too low to be worth mention. :) -- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 13:50, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose for the same reason we wouldn't post the Depp v. Heard trial, Kim Kardashian's sextape, or Lady Gaga's perfume brand launch. Given Netflix's reach 120 million isn’t all that much, consirering even taking into account Netflix-only productions, it wouldn't be in the most-watched programmes where there are 17 television shows with over 500 million views in their first 28 days alone and there are furthermore 23 films with over 100 million views in their first 28 days too. Abcmaxx (talk) 14:18, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
  • It did receive 60 m simultaneous viewers, which beat out a record set by the 2023 Cricket World Cup (io terms of streaming services, not broadcast channels) -- however, correctly, simple viewership numbers are not a reason to post. — Masem (t) 14:20, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

    Yes but viewership figures are hard to measure in the first place and furthermore, Netflix gets an increasingly high viewership of anything. I'm sure something like a Taylor Swift concert live-streamed would absolutely break a record but at least that would have some cultural merit as a music event, having a retired boxer turned undefined celebrity and a youtuber with no specific field just feels like a WP:PROMOTION, and I don't think this event will age well or be particularly remembered in a few years time. Abcmaxx (talk) 14:35, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

It's not being especially well-remembered right now. The BBC coverage is fairly harshly critical. GenevieveDEon (talk) 15:41, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

RD: Ella Jenkins

Article: Ella Jenkins (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NPR
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by ForsythiaJo (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Mohamad Darilin (talk · give credit), Jkaharper (talk · give credit) and Sunshineisles2 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American "First Lady of Children's Folk Song"; died November 9, media coverage appears to start on November 11. Core article seems well-cited, with citations needed for some awards. ForsythiaJo (talk) 02:08, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Soft oppose chunks of the article aren’t cited. Scuba 19:18, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Would anyone else be willing to take a look at the article? Referencing should be further improved at this point. ForsythiaJo (talk) 17:53, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Elizabeth Nunez

Article: Elizabeth Nunez (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article updated and well sourced. NYT published obit today while confirming death as 8 November. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 19:04, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

• Support NYT obit a week after her death. Article in good shape. Grimes2 (talk) 19:45, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Support article looks in good shape Scuba 19:13, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 01:44, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Eileen Kramer

Article: Eileen Kramer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC Net
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article updated and well sourced --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 08:44, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

• Support Solid article. Grimes2 (talk) 16:23, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
• Support Good article, meets ITN criteria. Happily888 (talk) 02:13, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

  Support solid article. Please post soon. Bedivere (talk) 04:17, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

  not looking for ITN criteria, which this doesn't meet, we're looking for RD criteria. Scuba 22:51, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

  ITN criteria is pretty much WP:ITNCRIT this, which is applicable to blurbs and RD and which it meets. Happily888 (talk) 03:24, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Support article looks fine. Scuba 22:52, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 00:49, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

(Maybe ready/ could use a few more looks) RD: Yuriko, Princess Mikasa

Article: Yuriko, Princess Mikasa (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NHK World
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by TheCorriynial (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Camillz (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Some work is needed, but Yuriko, Princess Mikasa was one of the last royals of Japan born and from the Taisho era, married one of Emperor Showa's brothers, and was the oldest living royal in Japan following her husband's death. TheCorriynial (talk) 23:55, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

• Support - Member of a royal family. Harizotoh9 (talk) 01:52, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD. Natg 19 (talk) 02:20, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

I've added this to the rule summary at the top of the page. It looks like these are good faith votes from people who are unaware of the above, and it comes up very often in comments, so added it for awareness. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:15, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

• Almost Ready. Shocking news for Japan. However, several sentences are missing the usual. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 02:45, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

I doubt it was that much of a shock. Like Queen Elizabeth she was in advanced old age and her health was known to be in decline. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:20, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

She was 101, how shocking could it have been? RachelTensions (talk) 08:35, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Japanese people are feeling bad about this, that's what they seem to mean. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 15:08, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Of halting importance globally and not significant to the average reader Dreameditsbrooklyn (talk) 02:47, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

  The average reader does not know who 99.99% of who RDs are. Harizotoh9 (talk) 04:17, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

  Please brush up on WP:ITNRD before adding your vote. Any individual human, animal or other biological organism that has recently died is eligable to be included in RD, as long as their artcles are Not currently nominated for deletion or speedy deletion, Updated, and of sufficient quality. Scuba 05:19, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

  They are also eligible to receive votes in opposition. Dreameditsbrooklyn (talk) 18:15, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

RDs are "eligible" for opposition, but oppose votes should be based on article quality. "Halting importance globally" is not a reason to oppose, as Scu ba has stated. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD. Natg 19 (talk) 18:29, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

They should, but they don't have to. _{Duly signed,} ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 18:34, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

yeah, but those votes have to make sense. Scuba 19:46, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

• Comment She was 101. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:08, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

• Soft oppose: the "children" section is largely uncited, but that seems like it would be an easy fix, and the information in it should be public record. Scuba 05:17, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support problems with the article have been fixed. Scuba 21:22, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
• Comment I've fixed the children section, thanks to NHK last year when she turned 100 listing every child via photo. I've tried to improve tone issues and fixed a ref needed, turned out it was in the same source I used for her children.TheCorriynial (talk) 10:18, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

  I've worked it down to one ref needed, that im not sure how to find a reference for, being a order award that is usually given to women in the royal family and rarely to other foreign female royals. TheCorriynial (talk) 12:52, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

  Looking through wikimedia commons, it appears she received the award in 1941. Obviously commons shouldn't be cited, but its a start. I've tried the best I've can, maybe a Japanese wikipedia user could help?TheCorriynial (talk) 16:58, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Are there better refs for these awards in Japanese sources? Some of the current refs are blogs. Natg 19 (talk) 18:36, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

• Not Quite Ready but close. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:20, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

  @Ad Orientem:, please don't do this, and tell us what is not ready so we can fix it even if you said that in general. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 15:12, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

  Comment: The article is probably ready by now. TheCorriynial (talk) 17:36, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

• Support The article was heavily edited after her death, and now if well cited and looks promising to make a good RD entry. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 08:11, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

November 14

Portal:Current events/2024 November 14

November 14, 2024 (2024-11-14) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hezbollah conflict 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon 2024 Beqaa Valley airstrikes Fifteen rescue workers are killed during an Israeli airstrike on the Regional Civil Defense Centre's headquarters in Baalbek, Lebanon. (BBC News) Russian invasion of Ukraine Eastern Ukraine campaign The Russian Defence Ministry claims that Russian forces have captured the village of Voznesenka in Donetsk Oblast, Ukraine. (Anadolu Agency) Odesa strikes, Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure One person is killed and ten others are injured in Russian airstrikes on an apartment building and energy facilities in Odesa, Ukraine. (Reuters) Syrian civil war Israel's role in the Syrian civil war Sixteen people are killed and 15 others are injured in Israeli airstrikes against residential buildings in Damascus, Syria. The Palestinian Islamic Jihad announces that a number of its militants are among the fatalities. (Al Mayadeen) (Al Jazeera) Insurgency in Balochistan In Balochistan, Pakistan, two soldiers and three insurgents are killed during a raid in Harnai District. Separately, two civilians are killed and three injured after an explosion in Ziarat District. (TRT World) Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa A Pakistani Taliban commander accidentaly detonates a car bomb at his house in Mir Ali, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan, killing himself and six other people. Fourteen others are also wounded. (AP) Haitian crisis Doctors Without Borders reports that at least two patients are dead after police officers and vigilantes attacked ambulances in Port-au-Prince, Haiti. (Semafor) (CNN) Arts and culture 25th Annual Latin Grammy Awards Dominican singer Juan Luis Guerra is the biggest winner with four awards. (Billboard) It is announced that the Kingda Ka roller coaster, the world's tallest roller coaster, will be retired at the Six Flags Great Adventure amusement park in New Jersey, United States. (KYW-TV) Business and economy The Onion, an American media company known for its satirical news content, acquires InfoWars, with the intent of rebranding the site into a parody of itself. (The New York Times) Disasters and accidents 2024 Pacific typhoon season More than 24,000 people are evacuated as Typhoon Usagi makes landfall in Baggao, Cagayan, Philippines. (DW) Health and environment A study published in the medical journal The Lancet reports that the number of adults who have diabetes globally has increased from 200 million people in 1990 to around 800 million people in 2022. The study also reported that around 40% of adults with diabetes are not receiving treatment for the disease. (DW) (The Guardian) Politics and elections 2024 Sri Lankan parliamentary election Sri Lankans vote in a snap election for the 225 members of the 17th Parliament of Sri Lanka. (Morning Star) (DW) Nauru launches an investment initiative which offers Nauruan citizenship in exchange for investment in climate change mitigation. (RNZ)

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RD: Thomas E. Kurtz

Article: Thomas E. Kurtz (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Bloomberg, NYT
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Daniel Quinlan (talk · give credit) and Grimes2 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Co-developer of the BASIC programming language. Death reported 14 November. Thriley (talk) 06:31, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose: Has a complete uncited section, also needs more sources elsewhere. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 08:18, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

   Added Every section is sourced. Support Grimes2 (talk) 17:22, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: Article could use some restructuring as multiple statements in the lede are not mentioned elsewhere in the article. Spencer^T•C 19:01, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

(Ready) 2024 Sri Lankan parliamentary election

Article: 2024 Sri Lankan parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The National People's Power led by Anura Kumara Dissanayake (pictured) wins the Sri Lankan parliamentary election. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Titanciwiki (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: I think this article needs to have more information on the aftermath but following that it should be good to post Titanciwiki^talk/contrib 03:29, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Support all the numbers are here, but the aftermath section is short. Scuba 04:57, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Support Looks fine. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 05:27, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Support Article is of sufficient quality for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:10, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Support per nom. -- IDB.S (talk) 15:04, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Rm ready. "Results" section has no prose. Spencer^T•C 23:24, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

   Done ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 08:39, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon

Article: 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Vice regent (talk · give credit)

 VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 00:32, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

This is a proposal to replace the ongoing item Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present) with 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon. There was consensus at Talk:Israel–Hezbollah_conflict_(2023–present)#Options that the scope of the former article should end at Sep 30, 2024 and events after Oct 1, 2024 should be covered in the latter article. Multiple weeks have passed and no one has objected. I think changing the ongoing will also redirect editors to add updates to the appropriate article.VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 00:32, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

• Support Sounds good to me, this probably should've been done with the invasion started. Scuba 00:35, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
• Support There is consensus, and this will direct editors to the appropriate article. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:32, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
• Support Per @Scu ba Rynoip (talk) 08:00, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
• Support per the talk page consensus. The Israeli invasion article is more current, and should therefore be the one we use on the main page. Kurtis ^(talk) 09:03, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
• Posted, replaced, Stephen 23:11, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

November 13

Portal:Current events/2024 November 13

November 13, 2024 (2024-11-13) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hezbollah conflict 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon Six Israeli soldiers from the Golani Brigade are killed in a three-hour gun battle with Hezbollah militants in southern Lebanon. (Le Monde) Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Insurgency in Balochistan Twelve Pakistani Taliban gunmen are killed and six wounded in two separated shootouts with soldiers in the districts of Kech and North Waziristan. (AP) Business and economy United Kingdom cost-of-living crisis British DIY retailer Homebase collapses into administration, threatening up to 2,000 jobs. (BBC News) Disasters and accidents 2024 Indo-Pakistani smog New Delhi, India, reports its 15th consecutive day with a "very poor" recorded air quality index due to significant air pollution causing zero meter visibility smog. (The Hindu) 2024 Spanish floods Thousands of Spaniards living near river banks are evacuated following the issuing of AEMET's maximum weather alert in the Province of Málaga, Costa del Sol, and the Valencian Community caused by a new cold drop system. (The Independent) International relations Israel–Turkey relations Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan announces that Turkey has suspended all diplomatic relations with and will not develop any further relations with Israel. However, the Turkish embassy in Tel Aviv, Israel, will continue to operate. Israel's foreign ministry denies any change in its diplomatic relationship with Turkey. (JNS) (Newsweek) (Middle East Eye) Law and crime 2024 Brasília attack Two explosions occurs near the Supreme Federal Court building and the Praça dos Três Poderes in Brasília, Brazil. The perpetrator dies by suicide bombing, being the only fatality. The Federal Police announces an investigation into the explosions, while the Attorney General's Office calls the situation "an attack against the Supreme Federal Court and the Chamber of Deputies". (G1) (CNN) Bulldozer Justice The Supreme Court of India rules that it is unconstitutional for the government to demolish property belonging to people suspected of crimes without a legal process, a practice common in states ruled by the Bharatiya Janata Party. (The Times of India) (DW) International Criminal Court investigation in the Philippines, Philippine drug war The Philippines says it is bound help the International Criminal Court if the international court seek custody of former President Rodrigo Duterte through Interpol over alleged crimes against humanity committed during the Philippine drug war. (AP) Politics and elections 2024 United States presidential election Second presidential transition of Donald Trump Outgoing U.S. President Joe Biden meets with President-elect Donald Trump in the White House and pledges a peaceful transition of power. (Reuters) 2024 Somaliland presidential election Citizens of Somaliland vote for the President between incumbent Muse Bihi Abdi of the Kulmiye party, House of Representatives speaker Abdirahman Mohamed Abdullahi of the Waddani party, and Faysal Ali Warabe of the Justice and Welfare Party. (VOA) (DW) Israel–Hamas war protests Crowds of pro-Palestinian protesters gather in Paris, France, against a gala raising funds for the Israel Defense Forces and included guests such as Israeli finance minister Bezalel Smotrich. (France 24)

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RD: Theodore Olson

Article: Theodore Olson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by ElijahPepe (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 23:23, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

• Not ready, some statements needs citations. 31.44.227.152 (talk) 00:03, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

• Support, given the article has been subsequently edited and inline citations have been added.

JohnAdams1800 (talk) 04:00, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

• Not ready BP needs more inline citations. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 08:20, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Roy Haynes

Article: Roy Haynes (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by 31.44.227.152 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by 37.159.35.155 (talk · give credit), Jkaharper (talk · give credit), TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit) and Martinevans123 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American jazz drummer. 31.44.227.152 (talk) 14:37, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

• Support Well written, comprehensive and well sourced. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:43, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
• Not ready Support Interesting person, but orange template in the section Discography. Grimes2 (talk) 16:57, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

  The Discography section is probably large enough to be moved to it's own article? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:53, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

  Good idea, found this source for all recordings: https://www.jazzdisco.org/roy-haynes/catalog/ Is it reliable? Grimes2 (talk) 19:09, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

  Have raised at Talk:Roy Haynes. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:35, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

  Roy Haynes discography now created. All remaining entries are sourced. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:13, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

  4 more {cn} tags have now appeared, and look problematic. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:38, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

  Looks like a potential blocker to posting. Unless someone has a better idea...? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:42, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

  We could comment out the 4 cn, DownBeat Readers Poll isn't that important award. Grimes2 (talk) 14:25, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

  Good idea. Now done. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:36, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

  So any more objections? Martinevans123 (talk) 17:03, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

• Support. Removed the last {{better sources needed}} tag. Mach61 18:50, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

  So, any more to be done? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:44, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

• Support article looks ready to be posted. _-_Alsor (talk) 17:09, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 22:59, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Daim Zainuddin

Article: Daim Zainuddin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ThePrint
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Thegreatrebellion (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: . Malaysian politician and former Minister of Finance Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 02:57, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

• Support: Article in sufficient quality. Tofusaurus (talk) 04:15, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Support Per above. Rynoip (talk) 22:51, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 22:53, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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