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Errors in the summary of the featured article

Please do not remove this invisible timestamp. See WT:ERRORS and WP:SUBSCRIBE. - Dank (push to talk) 01:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Errors with "In the news"

It's not urgent, but I think the 2024 Mauritian general election item can be removed now (it's been a week since the election). This would improve the main page's balance on my (widescreen) monitor. jlwoodwa (talk) 05:11, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Errors in "Did you know ..."

  • ... that Leon Trotsky frequented a Jewish dairy restaurant in the Bronx but refused to tip, and the waiters retaliated by spilling hot soup on him?.

In the article, this is presented less strongly, as "according to one story...". Given that Trotsky only spent a few months in the Bronx, and the overall story doesn't do great on a general "sniff test", I don't think it can be presented as hard fact in the DYK hook. Rubenstein places quote marks around the anecdote, but I can't see any citation. The ultimate source seems to be the cited Esquirearticle. We also have a possible CLOP issue here: the article has Trotsky refused to tip after eating as a matter of principle, insisting that "tipping was demeaning to the dignity of a workingman, and that a person should get a regular salary, enough to live on, and not have to depend on tips". For the same reason, he tried to persuade other customers to refuse to tip as well, while the Rubenstein source has As a matter of principle, he refused to leave a tip himself and would harangue other customers to do the same, with the quote elsewhere in the paragraph.. UndercoverClassicist T·C 15:24, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Esquire article has an extensive account of the matter and that's because the author's father was a waiter at the restaurant. Such stories have to start somewhere and we have a fairly plausible chain of sources in this case. The anecdote has been repeated in numerous reputable sources such as the journal of the New York State Historical Association and none of them seem to doubt it. Many other famous people were opposed to tipping at this time and it was quite a political issue – see When Tipping Was Considered Deeply Un-American – so laws were passed against it several states. So Trotsky would have been just following an existing political trend.
As another bit of background, note that Gratuity#Russia says "During the Soviet era, and especially with the Stalinist reforms of the 1930s, tipping was discouraged and was considered an offensive capitalist tradition aimed at belittling and lowering the status of the working class." That's not sourced but it seems quite consistent.
So, there's no particular reason to doubt this. An unsupported "sniff test" isn't adequate reason to mess with it.
Andrew🐉(talk) 21:16, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Errors in "On this day"

"1894 – H. H. Holmes (pictured), one of the first modern serial killers, was arrested in Boston after killing at least nine people." There is no mention in the article text of him being the the "first modern serial killer" and there is a whole paragraph that argues against him being a serial killer at all (in the sense he had regular motives for the murders rather than killing for the sake of killing). I am also not clear on how the body count has been built up, the infobox says 1 confirmed victim and 9 suspected (uncited) but there are 5 people listed in the article under "presumed murders" and 11 under "suspected murders" as well as others in other sections. The article's a bit of a mess really and some of the citations are to unreliable sources such as blogs and history.com - Dumelow (talk) 09:39, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

minus Replaced  — Amakuru (talk) 10:11, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could we add World Prematurity Day for November 17? The article looks ok. Brandmeistertalk 15:44, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The reference that is supposed to confirm the date is dead. Could you please go for a hunt and fix the reference, Brandmeister or anyone else? Once done, I'm happy to add it. And whilst there's not much time until midnight UTC, once it's done it can appear each year. Schwede66 19:12, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've replaced it with an archived link now. Brandmeistertalk 20:06, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • 1872 – American suffragette Susan B. Anthony was arrested and fined $100 for having voted...
Whilst she was arrested November 18, 1872, she was not actually fined until the end of her trial in June 1873. Add 'later' or 'after a trial' before "fined"? JennyOz (talk) 08:25, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 15:03, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(November 22)
(November 18, today)

I think that the wording of the summary should be changed. The current phrasing (The European bison (Bison bonasus), also known as the wisent, is a mammal in the family Bovidae, one of two extant species of bison.) implies that Bovidae is a species of bison, when Bovidae is actually the family of cloven-hoofed ruminants (including cattle, bison, sheep, goats, etc). The species in this case is Bison bonasus. Di (they-them) (talk) 11:25, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

minus Tweaked.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:29, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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